Skipper's demo trading notes - How it went and what was learned?


Tansen

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FUCK! Then the bear strikes Lol. I was short got stopped out +1 pip then... well look at it lol I would of nabbed 2/3 of that swing.
 

Skipper

Demo trader - Learning everyday
Tansen said:
FUCK! Then the bear strikes Lol. I was short got stopped out +1 pip then... well look at it lol I would of nabbed 2/3 of that swing.
It was a nice reaction in the direction I was trading it. Nevertheless It was a sharper cut down @1.38100 than I anticipated :drinking: Times like these are good examples for that "conservative" manner I should have when it comes to profit taking. Was learning a lot today and it was fun ;)
 

Skipper

Demo trader - Learning everyday
Now.. going back to ICT episodes starting from the first one. I have learner a lot and have some experience using the tools, but there is a bigger picture I need to understand.

1. I need to focus more on the directional bias and maintain it in my trades

2. What I need is a solid understanding where and when price is truly turned and what's going on internally. Even if I know where the higher time S/R are I'm not yet so experienced to define actual turning point and make use of it
 

Tansen

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Don't completely listen to me, because I am usually not there to see the thought process of when you get into a trade however I recognize the same problem I dealt with and I will attempt to save you some losses with two words: Market Structure.

;) again, do your CSI on your trading before you take my opinion
 
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Piper

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In my opinion, the answer is divergence.If you learn to see it,on any momentum indi ,the real turning points will almost never avoid you.
 

Skipper

Demo trader - Learning everyday
Tansen said:
Don't completely listen to me, because I am usually not there to see the thought process of when you get into a trade however I recognize the same problem I dealt with and I will attempt to save you some losses with two words: Market Structure.

;) again, do your CSI on your trading before you take my opinion
That's what I'll do. Trying really hard to make my own mistakes and maybe some right decisions as well, thanks for this :D

Piper said:
In my opinion, the answer is divergence.If you learn to see it,on any momentum indi ,the real turning points will almost never avoid you.
What time frame you utilize to see these in action, maybe daily or 4h? I'm using Stoch at the moment and try to keep everything nice and clean.



At the moment I'm reading a Trading For A Living - maybe it helps?
 
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Piper

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It's all depending on your style. Stoch is cool for that. If ur into 3x screen than the highest tf should be utilized for momentum. Otherwise, whatever you are trading i think.
 

Skipper

Demo trader - Learning everyday
It was a day in hell at work :mad:

I really like to see my efforts pay me some day. Was studying price movements candle by candle most of the weekend, reading and watched some ICT episodes again. Now on I'm trying to focus those golden setups, if I can find them? Patience, patience... and more patience... Have to be like "Lion In Zion".

By the way, if you like to know more about bells and toys in your trading tools Trading For A Living made a good explanation of those. Maybe too much indies for my like, but still a good reading.
 

Tansen

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Skipper said:
It was a day in hell at work :mad:

I really like to see my efforts pay me some day. Was studying price movements candle by candle most of the weekend, reading and watched some ICT episodes again. Now on I'm trying to focus those golden setups, if I can find them? Patience, patience... and more patience... Have to be like "Lion In Zion".
No I know the feeling I got stopped yesterday twice because I made two general mistakes, Firstly the Asia range was > than that of 30 pips and therefore the signal should be an asian session entry. However with that said we were at the mid point for two key levels and the DX was at a previous high which should of signified a rally. Minor or major but rally in general.
 

Skipper

Demo trader - Learning everyday
"As a comparison, what are the emotional differences between trading an account that has no
outcome versus trading an account where winning or losing bear material consequences? The
consequences of W/L outcome of a trade will impact your emotional state. This can become
a challenge if you have not developed the ability to accept the emotional impact of outcomes
weighed on opposite ends of the spectrum."
(http://www.chrislori.com/Blog/August-2013/Valuable-Lessons-from-the-Days-of-My-Youth)

Must like this! It layout my future challenges when I'm ready to go live. Well, positive thing is there is some similaritys the way I was growing as a kid. One thing though ... Never wanted to win anything, hated all the competition even when I was good at something. Did not want to beat anyone when I know how sore losers they are, much easier that way ??? Now, is that making me a good loser already 8)

Hoping to see my setup forming in few minutes..
 

Skipper

Demo trader - Learning everyday
Story so far

For the past weeks I have made some experiments and trading exercise following ICT Scope sniper concepts. After shooting here and there, I have little by little come to understand the important of higher time frames S/R levels and how those leads to good trading setups, even though the “natural” desire to trade more actively is trying to lurk in the corner. What I have find difficulty at the moment is how to transform my daily life and routines to support the idea of consistent trading. My day work is sometimes a bit hectic; also my current family situation (8 month baby boy) is not giving me much extra time for my trading efforts. This all mean some serious habit changing for me;

1. I have to wake up more earlier so I can make my trading decisions
2. Have to go sleep early so I have energy to wake early (I’m more like a night person, always been).
3. In the evening I have to study charts and make my analysis for the coming days/ keep a track of the week
4. Have to get tablet and learn to use it for my trading
5. Keep up the slow phase taking trade setups
6. Have to get a sport hobby so I can blow up some steam...trying to take care of trading study progress /family/house repairs and my daily work is really pushing me on the edge.

I’m frighten that If I can’t make these routines and daily habits to work, there’s no way I can measure my progress in trading.
I can study trading all my life; but I need to put this Demo account to work for me! There is no business going live before that.

What else I can do…? Maybe another job that fits for this kind of goal, or is there any :ponder:
 

Skipper

Demo trader - Learning everyday
Made this order last night early on in Asia. See this filled around 13:00, it was getting near my stop. Still a bit unsure my tp.


Moving to break even. Hard time in that support level... it's taking some time


Taking half off from my position because of heavy support.. late night action


End of game, was making right decisions
 

Skipper

Demo trader - Learning everyday
As a developing trader one thing have comes to my mind when analyzing my trades. Very often I see markets behaving as I was expecting, but too often I see it forming far later than I expected. So rushing in too fast is something I have to think about. This is obviously because I don’t yet have learned to understand the timescale and phase markets are moving. I hope this problem will solve itself in time.

While spending my time to learn this monitoring live action, if you guys out there have some good reading about this or any thoughts about this please let me know. ;)
 

Tansen

Well-Known Member
Nice 100 pip catch, 100 pip days are kind of uncommon at times, typically you'd have to get a NFP or Bernie Mac to say something to squeeze an extra 20 lol.
 

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