ICT VS Shopsters

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TheInnerpreneur said:
why would someone consider you to be ICT, when your discussing Shopster in the main.

Anyway thank you its very interesting.

Do you use shopster technique and have you been trading long?

sorry just seen your post, question if you dont trade shopster, why are you posting this, do you think his method works at all?

dont want to spend months on it if its a failure?
 
TheInnerpreneur said:
sorry just seen your post, question if you dont trade shopster, why are you posting this, do you think his method works at all?

dont want to spend months on it if its a failure?

I was trading other methodologies and was told about Shopsters. I use it like ICT to confirm my traded method to add weightage whether I should buy or sell. Shopster give a very quickie assessments of trade likelihood and its bearing.

Unless you do not have any other traded method, this do come handy. But caveats are that not every shoes fit you or for that not every fitted shoes will you buy.
 
shopster said:
" i can't trade runs a new scam. money for nothing. "

cha ching.

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https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=JF8UXAT49ZZXY

In the video he made today, claimed he already got over 500 subscribers... while laughing.

That's over $75,000/month.

Can't this be reported... he claims the $$$ is going to charity. There has to be something illegal about this scam...
 
the golden gun said:
In the video he made today, claimed he already got over 500 subscribers... while laughing.

That's over $75,000/month.

Can't this be reported... he claims the $$$ is going to charity. There has to be something illegal about this scam...
i doubt very much he has 500, more like 3% of his feed on twitter at most 180 tops he is trying on the soft sell, most on his feed cant afford the 150 a month 50% will do month who have signed up now ,the rest wont last 3 months ,
let him get on with it he has been planning it from day 1,but never been able to pull it off or make a profit on a myfxbook demo or live he has shown his true self and shown his hand now after attacking anyone /or service that charges anyone who pays to follow this scammer deserves it, quick riches in trading from someone who cannot lie straight in bed.
the guys who used to say but he does it for free so he cant be a scammer ,will now say he should get paid for his time lol.
master manipulator and marketer few months back he did test the water with his charity bullshit just to see if he could steer them to a payment i think about 30 clowns did it .
now he has gone for it ,
it will all end in wasted time and lost accounts and broken promises .
all he is ,is a conman and vey good at it too i will give him that,its been great to watch it all develop and a good lesson in human behavior how many times has he blown up ,he moves to a fresh site babypips banned him ,he lost his bottle on here and tradingview as he cannot control the content .
twitter is the perfect place ,deletes his history bans people who suss him out and a constant flow or fresh meat to turn over .
 
Nevertheless,I'm being entertained. Seems that 'never, never, never ask for payment' does that mean what I thought it did. Maybe a reinterpretation of one of the Ten Commandments. Good to be the devout Atheist that I am.

Let us wait and see whether or not he extends the 'deadline'. Past performance is the best indicator of future behavior.
 
rod178 said:
Nevertheless,I'm being entertained. Seems that 'never, never, never ask for payment' does that mean what I thought it did. Maybe a reinterpretation of one of the Ten Commandments. Good to be the devout Atheist that I am.

Let us wait and see whether or not he extends the 'deadline'. Past performance is the best indicator of future behavior.
LOL rod so am i ,the deadline will be extended thats a given ,he is trying his best to nail that down to get the emotional in quick ,impulsive gamblers who dont want to miss out lol .
the herd mentality comes to mind just like on a trading chart, GREED, FEAR OF LOSS biggest drivers in trading
 
garry said:
LOL rod so am i ,the deadline will be extended thats a given ,he is trying his best to nail that down to get the emotional in quick ,impulsive gamblers who dont want to miss out lol .
the herd mentality comes to mind just like on a trading chart, GREED, FEAR OF LOSS biggest drivers in trading

With maybe only a few exceptions it seems to me that those signing up are the relative 'newbies' ie new to ICT and new to trading. They still have future big $$$ is their squinty little eyes.

Actually, to be fair, I have incorporated many of his 'tools', after considerable modification, to suit my trading style. As a further plus I find his rants, when off the meds, very entertaining.

The nonsense about the secret stuff, to be revealed in the paid course, is obviously crap as the persons with whom he supposedly signed the non disclosures with could easily gain access to his paid material by court order or signing up. I had a good laugh over the charity stuff and when he stated (later deleted) that he would trace the ISPs of persons disseminating his material and even stop the course if torrenting became prevalent. Maybe he has CIA and NSA links!! All an insult to the intelligence of anyone with the intelligence of the average mug trader, even an American. Who needs to watch puerile US television programs when one has Michael, in that sense I will miss him.

The tried and true sales methodology is the old 'fear of missing out'. My response, is always, 'OK I will miss out'. Whenever someone wants my money, the deadline is their problem, not mine. My only question is 'why did it take him so long to come in for the kill, even for charity LOL?', must be down to his (stated) last $77mill.

Actually I suspect that some disgruntled subscriber will upload the 'special' material eventually, so 'no fear of missing out on the 'secret sauce', although no urgent need for the spicy stuff.

The free flow of information over the internet does bring a sense of justice to the Trading Education Industry, one of the biggest scams going, of which he soon will become a bona fide member.

PS 'never never never'.
= I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you.
 
rod178 said:
With maybe only a few exceptions it seems to me that those signing up are the relative 'newbies' ie new to ICT and new to trading. They still have future big $$$ is their squinty little eyes.

Actually, to be fair, I have incorporated many of his 'tools', after considerable modification, to suit my trading style. As a further plus I find his rants, when off the meds, very entertaining.

The nonsense about the secret stuff, to be revealed in the paid course, is obviously crap as the persons with whom he supposedly signed the non disclosures with could easily gain access to his paid material by court order or signing up. I had a good laugh over the charity stuff and when he stated (later deleted) that he would trace the ISPs of persons disseminating his material and even stop the course if torrenting became prevalent. Maybe he has CIA and NSA links!! All an insult to the intelligence of anyone with the intelligence of the average mug trader, even an American. Who needs to watch puerile US television programs when one has Michael, in that sense I will miss him.

The tried and true sales methodology is the old 'fear of missing out'. My response, is always, 'OK I will miss out'. Whenever someone wants my money, the deadline is their problem, not mine. My only question is 'why did it take him so long to come in for the kill, even for charity LOL?', must be down to his (stated) last $77mill.

Actually I suspect that some disgruntled subscriber will upload the 'special' material eventually, so 'no fear of missing out on the 'secret sauce', although no urgent need for the spicy stuff.

The free flow of information over the internet does bring a sense of justice to the Trading Education Industry, one of the biggest scams going, of which he soon will become a bona fide member.

PS 'never never never'.
= I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you.
your post is spot on ,to me its all rehashed with different terminology ,just supply demand concepts s/r levels nothing that he can claim as his own work ,steve monro and martin cole were using it way before so 1 more lie added
im sure some find ict,s take on it useful ,

the question why did he take so long ,he always blew up after bragging on babypips etc ,ran away hid his head in the sand like a smacked child .so he never could take the flak and truth from forum members his ego and self-worth killed him and eat him up .with loss after loss after loss.
then he found twitter could delete everything go missing start again and ban the people who could see the wood for the trees.
so he got more cocky and fresh meat every week ,twitter is so full of scammers who dont make money trading ,even a few of ict guys are mini celbs they think ,not one of them makes profit after years of following giving advice to other newbies is beyond belief the shit they post and newbies suck up to it. legends in their own minds.

his rants are classic when off the meds or booze whatever it is he has to a lesson not to touch that shit ,he is a clever manipulator of the unwise and greedy dream chaser ,the story wont end there waiting for the next episode

can you remember a few years back on here when he said he was going to sue vic noble ffs lol ,and vic noble said he never heard of him and ict deleted everything and went missing for a while ,my youngest is more mature than him
mental mickey is one of a kind for sure .

i doubt he is married or has any kids ,i feel he is a shift worker in a factory somewhere,with a history or drug alcohol addiction
ocd autistic call it what u want ,but very entertaining in a childish michael jackson kind of way ,he abuses his followers in a cruel way with deception thats his kicks
 
the mikey rant, i saved a copy for future reference.

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garry said:
..just supply demand concepts s/r levels nothing that he can claim as his own work ,steve monro and martin cole were using it way before.....

Not sure that is correct, nevertheless, I have no time at all for Mauro or (especially) Cole. Vic's material seems very narrow, remember Shirley LOL? All of them are merely part of the retail scam industry.
 
Thanks for shop's stuff GITrader!

Shop showed how he uses his ZL & RAD, but how do you use the others: SuperADX, SupportingADX, Supporting MACD, and TrendWave?

I'm really excited to have the full shopster professional setup!!
 
shopster said:
the mikey rant, i saved a copy for future reference.

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Good catch there shop ,so funny he was buying vic,s courses for years ,classic when vic replied we havent even heard of him nobody had .
now he is selling all the serects which he was afraid to release because he was scared for his life what the government would do lol
maybe carry him off in a straight jacket to the lonnie bin :eek: :eek:
 
rod178 said:
Not sure that is correct, nevertheless, I have no time at all for Mauro or (especially) Cole. Vic's material seems very narrow, remember Shirley LOL? All of them are merely part of the retail scam industry.
vic and shirley with the london close :))
no wonder it takes newbies so long with all the marketing ,not many realize the only edge they have is themselves

we had two victims on here piphanger and aaron who both wanted to end their lifes going broke ,thats the carnage that following ict can do which is very sad indeed
 
garry said:
vic and shirley with the london close :))
no wonder it takes newbies so long with all the marketing ,not many realize the only edge they have is themselves

we had two victims on here piphanger and aaron who both wanted to end their lifes going broke ,thats the carnage that following ict can do which is very sad indeed

yes i am a victim. not just the money and time was lost, but a good portion of my sanity as well.

to be fair though, nobody here has rushed to help said victim : P

you guys just use my suffering as a tool to jab mikey's reputation. which is fine, but not exactly knight in shining armour material :thumbsup:
 
the golden gun said:
yes i am a victim. not just the money and time was lost, but a good portion of my sanity as well.

to be fair though, nobody here has rushed to help said victim : P

you guys just use my suffering as a tool to jab mikey's reputation. which is fine, but not exactly knight in shining armour material :thumbsup:

Self inflicted, hence so sympathy. Only thing I am eager to assist with is supply of the rope.
 
I did some quick googling and could not find anyone who is supposedly ripping off ICT's material for payment. All I could find were several 'dedication' sites.
Interested whether or not anyone has found anyone endeavoring to monetize his material.
 
I got a bigger file that I had compiled Shopster online Forum but when upload kept rejected as too big a file. Any suggestions.
 
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