ICT Forexmas 2014 / Market Maker Series

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I'm just doing this as a friendly reminder.

As I like to remain nonchalant about things, pretty much everything, there have been things said and I haven't kept score in this thread but would warrant me to label warnings and distribute bans.

I haven't kept up but yes;

I would guess it's late.
He threw a promise and it hasn't happened.
Your hopes were hyped up because of this.

However you haven`t:

Lost anything, aside from belief in Santa claus, even if you had lost profit there was no trade specifics forced upon you.
And this is a big one "don`t have to stick around for abuse"





If you're going to come in here and continue to come in here to try and fly high as a kite then crash a bit and not listen that's your problem because we can only talk to you when your open to listening and that only happens when you are at the bottom. This goes for everything not just ICT but trading in general.

I am going to call you out specifically because I've been watching and you're the most vocal, Piphanger.

Let me ask you this one question:
What do you hope to gain out of all of this?

Simply put you display the behavior that of a person who's been jaded by a lover who wants them back... and don't get me wrong this is an honest question.

I am in no way defending either of you however I am getting tired of seeing this relentless campaign that's holding you back from moving forward with your life.
 
PipHanger said:
Yepp cause a link to the videos takes all of a minute to post...lol

The fact is he enjoys this, it was his plan the whole time. He counts down the days until video release, hypes it up as much as he can, then 24 hours before release, poof he's gone. He is sitting back reading everyone's comments and enjoying the crap out of everyone else's misery.

Sick Sick Sick if you ask me. It happens every time and I knew it would happen again. I was talking to some people about this release and told them before hand that it would not be posted today, I even offered to bet $1000 that it wouldn't and they wouldn't take me up on the bet. It was a for sure bet on my part tho.

luckily nobody is asking you. Lol. just like a good set up you must wait for the material (price) to come to you.who knows why it is delayed? uploading delay perhaps. Someone like Michael is also a stickler for detail, perhaps he decided to revise some of it. Perhaps he is now thinking why should I release this? I have been trading for 15 years and when I stumbled upon ICT a few months ago I was blown away with what he revealed. Trust me there will be people out there who dont want Michael to teach this stuff. You are lucky that you are getting any of this material at all.
 
outthislife said:
Or he's, you know, spending time w/ his family while it uploads :p

He's already stated in a tweet that the videos were uploaded onto his site - BUT, the links aren't active ..so we were just waiting for them to be posted=[

To be honest though, after that stunt our buddy Vic pulled and charged people to attend a webinar with sneaky swings ( lol ) I probably wouldnt upload any new material either!! >:D
 
How many new traders have joined ICT this year? A lot...they don't know how this game is played. I just want to make this aware to them because I know how much it sucks.

Just look at all the people sitting around refreshing this sit and twitter none stop since this morning waiting for these links, do I want to see them waste their day like ICT, nope...so I gave them the scoop so they can rest easy. Simple as that, I just saying what most are thinking...

That's all, you can ban me if you want it's your site, I'm just using my freedom of speech on it.
 
PipHanger said:
How many new traders have joined ICT this year? A lot...they don't know how this game is played. I just want to make this aware to them because I know how much it sucks.

Just look at all the people sitting around refreshing this sit and twitter none stop since this morning waiting for these links, do I want to see them waste their day like ICT, nope...so I gave them the scoop so they can rest easy. Simple as that, I just saying what most are thinking...

That's all, you can ban me if you want it's your site, I'm just using my freedom of speech on it.

I'd never ban you for voicing your opinion and if I really wanted to hanger I would of done so a long time ago. However from what I've been observing is that this isn't a healthy perspective to hold because all that will happen is the stacking of the negatives and have nothing to weigh the positives against and I am talking about more than just trading.

But ask yourself what do you hope to gain from this yourself and how does this help you in your life by trying to prove that he's what you experienced as?

I am not trying to talk down or up to you I am trying to talk to you on equal levels because I feel nobody ever really does at the moment.
 
What I am getting from this is to stop someone else from going threw the pain I have been threw. That's it. If I told you how many times I had a gun to my head since I've meet ICT it would make you sick.

In a way it gives me releaf...
 
PipHanger said:
What I am getting from this is to stop someone else from going threw the pain I have been threw. That's it. If I told you how many times I had a gun to my head since I've meet ICT it would make you sick.

In a way it gives me releaf...

Why do these people matter so much to you?
Help me understand what it is yo mean by gun to your head?

I mean realistically they don't want to listen why waste your time on people who don't matter that much to you?
 
Tansen said:
Why do these people matter so much to you?
Help me understand what it is yo mean by gun to your head?

I mean realistically they don't want to listen why waste your time on people who don't matter that much to you?

It means exactly what I typed, tempting suicide. I have lost pretty much my life saving and retirement. Is it ICT fault, no, but the hopes and promises do play a part.

Why he means so much to me, because he was suppose to be different, he bloats he has just the thing I need to make a crazy income. He makes it seem so easy such as the last 20 post or so on twitter about this series being the thing that everyone struggling needs.
 
PipHanger said:
It means exactly what I typed, tempting suicide. I have lost pretty much my life saving and retirement. Is it ICT fault, no, but the hopes and promises do play a part.

Why he means so much to me, because he was suppose to be different, he bloats he has just the thing I need to make a crazy income. He makes it seem so easy such as the last 20 post or so on twitter about this series being the thing that everyone struggling needs.

Well I am glad you didn't take the cowards way out.

However you should ask yourself, "How am I going to move forward in my life?" and don't be afraid to be honest with yourself.

For now fuck other people, the people who should matter and warrant your full attention are those who show you the same manner of integrity you show them.

Wouldn't you agree that you can't move let alone move forward if you cage yourself in the past?

Would you say you win in life and in finances if you were proven right?
Sacrificing everything and obsessing so much so that after you've obtained this satisfaction what's left? Do you have anything good left to measure it against?
 
I think you should calm down and be rational about this. At least 90% of traders lose and you feel suicidal because you lost? That doesnt make sense at all. You should NOT be trading real money if you dont have many months profitable demo trading behind you. For any newbies out there you should NOT stop your job/study/career until you have learnt to trade profitably for 2 years +. The market is designed to take your money, that's its job. If any of you ever feel suicidal due to trading ir anything else please seek help and dont delay. You CAN find peace of mind and happiness in this world no matter how bad it seems at the time with or without trading. Since trading requires high levels of emotional stability you should take a long break to evaluate where you are and where you are going. Nobody is going to wish they traded more on their death bed.

PipHanger said:
It means exactly what I typed, tempting suicide. I have lost pretty much my life saving and retirement. Is it ICT fault, no, but the hopes and promises do play a part.

Why he means so much to me, because he was suppose to be different, he bloats he has just the thing I need to make a crazy income. He makes it seem so easy such as the last 20 post or so on twitter about this series being the thing that everyone struggling needs.
 
Troy remembers past experiences with ICT releases and expects the material not to be released as stated. Troy is emotionally hurt by this experience.

Aaron remembers past experiences with ICT releases and expects the material not to be released as stated. Aaron is not emotionally hurt by this experience.

Same thought process and validation of expected reality with different emotional outcome...

Tansen painted a shockingly accurate portrait of your relationship with ICT. You are in an abusive relationship and will not walk away. He doesn't even apologize after abusing you.
You have to leave man. You should probably stop trading for a long time too. You need near perfect emotional control to trade successfully, and from what I'm reading, your emotional stability is hanging by a thread. You're emotionally weak. You will not make money in this state no matter what ICT releases.

The markets will always be here in the future, so spend some time strengthening your emotional fortitude and come back after that lengthy process. Otherwise the markets will not be fruitful for you, in fact as you've seen, they will suck every drop of life from you.

Just walk away... you have a good paying job. Just tell people you got scammed, and that forex is a racket, and people might even feel sorry for you. You'll recover because after you walk away... you'll just be a guy with a family and a job. You'll blend in, your past failures will fade away, and you can just live your life and be happy.

But to some extent you should be proud, as you are now part of an exclusive club...
the 5-digit losers club! So far it includes just Me, ICT, and now You!

If there's anyone else out there that has endured >$10,000 in forex losses, feel free to chime in now. It might help Piphanger realize what a cut-throat business this actually is...
 
PipHanger said:
It means exactly what I typed, tempting suicide. I have lost pretty much my life saving and retirement. Is it ICT fault, no, but the hopes and promises do play a part.

Why he means so much to me, because he was suppose to be different, he bloats he has just the thing I need to make a crazy income. He makes it seem so easy such as the last 20 post or so on twitter about this series being the thing that everyone struggling needs.

Wow man. Are you consistently profitable now, or are you just hanging on to hope for a holy grail?

Trading might not be for you, for now. Take a break.
 
the golden gun said:
Troy remembers past experiences with ICT releases and expects the material not to be released as stated. Troy is emotionally hurt by this experience.

Aaron remembers past experiences with ICT releases and expects the material not to be released as stated. Aaron is not emotionally hurt by this experience.

Same thought process and validation of expected reality with different emotional outcome...

Tansen painted a shockingly accurate portrait of your relationship with ICT. You are in an abusive relationship and will not walk away. He doesn't even apologize after abusing you.
You have to leave man. You should probably stop trading for a long time too. You need near perfect emotional control to trade successfully, and from what I'm reading, your emotional stability is hanging by a thread. You're emotionally weak. You will not make money in this state no matter what ICT releases.

The markets will always be here in the future, so spend some time strengthening your emotional fortitude and come back after that lengthy process. Otherwise the markets will not be fruitful for you, in fact as you've seen, they will suck every drop of life from you.

Just walk away... you have a good paying job. Just tell people you got scammed, and that forex is a racket, and people might even feel sorry for you. You'll recover because after you walk away... you'll just be a guy with a family and a job. You'll blend in, your past failures will fade away, and you can just live your life and be happy.

But to some extent you should be proud, as you are now part of an exclusive club...
the 5-digit losers club! So far it includes just Me, ICT, and now You!

If there's anyone else out there that has endured >$10,000 in forex losses, feel free to chime in now. It might help Piphanger realize what a cut-throat business this actually is...

i have lost way more then $10k learning how to trade. I lost money for 10 years straight due to 'adverse character traits'. My worst day was -$7k on one trade and it hurt but I learnt from it.
 
I'm down maybe 50-60k from trading, half from stocks, half from forex. I'm taking it better than most. I have not thought about taking my life because of it. Although as soon as I closed my trade in the negative, I felt an instant sense of relief. I've been learning from ICT when he first came out on babypips. I learned until he deleted his content because he forgot to put a disclaimer on them or something, I forget. Now I'm just picking his stuff back up 2nd half of this year. I've matured a lot as a trader and developed my trading off of broad ICT concepts. I found that since ICT never released a comprehensive trading plan telling you exactly what to do. It's more of snippets of action here and there that make perfect sense in this scenario but maybe not the next. You never get the full picture of what he sees. That's not to say what he teaches isn't valuable. I'm using what he's teaching and filling in the gaps myself with my own style. It has not been successful as of yet but that's because I'm trading too many pairs and trading too often because I'm trying to get rich fast. My trading plan isn't exactly solid either, which is why I'm hoping forexmas market makers video comes out to pull me over the final hurdle, giving me the clarity I need.

Maybe being rickrolled by Micheal is the price we pay for his content. It's better than paying cash for something that was stolen or doesn't work.
 
Who remembers the Halloween graphics for the release. Graphics like that takes time to produce. I feel you piphanger, not the suicide part though.
 
fxsniper said:
i have lost way more then $10k learning how to trade. I lost money for 10 years straight due to 'adverse character traits'. My worst day was -$7k on one trade and it hurt but I learnt from it.

What went wrong that day? Forget about risk management..? :)
 
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